Gay Travel...What Does It Mean To You?


 GAY TRAVEL.....what does it mean?

Everyday I scan countless news headlines, blogs and story leads, looking to see who is saying what, and looking for things that are interesting.  Today I discovered  LANDLOPERS . It is a general  travel site written by Matt Long, who happens to be gay. It's not a "gay travel" site, like this one. He says, "My site brings a unique perspective that is hard to find online. I am not a backpacker, nor am I super wealthy. I am just an average person who has managed to travel the world efficiently and without spending a fortune."

His post today No Respect for the Gay Traveler , really got me thinking about how my partner and I travel, compared to how other gay people travel. 

When I travel, I look for "gay friendly" signs and symbols.  Rainbow flags. That way I know, they are accepting and are not give me strange looks if I kiss my husband in public. I can safely assume the staff is going to be accepting of us and they welcome my gay dollars.

Matt  says, "why do we need separate things? Expedia recently launched a GLBT Travel Lounge offering gay friendly travel options. That sounds fine on the face of it, but why does there need to be a GLBT search listing? Would you have a separate search criteria for African-Americans or Christians?  That’s absurd. Furthermore, the gay city guides on Expedia seem to highlight a lot of clubs, bars and design stores. Not feeding into any stereotypes there, are we? If they advertised stereotypical listings to other minorities, there would be a national boycott.

I do not need to be segregated with other gay people. I am an independent traveler and am quite capable of handling myself in most situations around the world and can interact with people of all backgrounds. I’m not looking for everyone to get who I am and do not need to travel in a homogenized bubble."I disagree with Matt. I WANT separate listings. And to compare  us with African-Americans or Christians does not make any sense. Of course, you would not have separate listings for those groups. But what about separate listings for  families? or seniors? It comes down to a group having certain needs and wants.

And as gay travelers, I think many of us want different things.  Some people want the gay, gay, gay experience. While others just want to blend in.  Matt says, "Drop the rainbow flags and instead educate your staffs that 1) gay people do exist and 2) that you treat them like any other guest. This revolutionary concept would go well beyond any promise of techno parties or the excessive use of glitter. The same goes with gay-friendly itineraries. I don’t even know what this means: clubs and brunch only restaurants? We don’t need that, our travel interests are usually the same as anyone else when visiting a new place. When I go to Paris I want to visit Montmartre or the Louvre, not a drag club. What we need is respect and not segregation."

 

 

The rainbow flag is like a big welcome sign. You can't drop that. It demonstrates that a place is gay or at least gay-friendly.  Matt says our travel interests are usually the same as anyone else when visiting a new place. I disagree.  When I was in Paris last year I went to the Louvre sure, but I also hung out every night in the le Marais, the gay district and went to a drag bar, a sauna and gay restaurant!  I think we all want different things when we travel. And while Matt isn't necessarily looking for the "gay experience" when he travels, many of us are.

I was out with a gay friend last night who commented he loves to go on cruises, but has never taken a gay cruise. I asked what he liked about it, and he said he enjoys picking up the bi-married men! That's not my thing. It's too much work for one thing. I would rather be on a boat with all gay men!



This whole  issue brings into question just how gay friendly are certain countries that tend to be popular with gay tourists? No doubt if we boycotted every country that didn’t have a Clone Zone or gay club we’d be limited to a very dull itinerary. But many gay people may not be aware that their well-earned holiday dosh is going into the coffers of governments who oppress homosexuals and refuse them to live their lives openly, and in some cases in fear of imprisonment.

Egypt
It’s got plenty to recommend it on the romantic front; cruises down the Nile, sun basked shores and experiencing the Pyramids at sunset etc. But Egypt also happens to be one of the most unsympathetic countries relating to human rights especially over homosexuality. Recently gay websites were closed down by the authorities and used as evidence to secure jail sentences for Egyptian gays.

Morocco
 Like many Islamic / Muslim societies that view homosexual acts strictly as precursors to marriage, being openly gay and in love with someone of the same sex is a big no, no. Algiers may appear wild and louche but it’s unlikely you and your lover will be able to sign a ‘civil partnership’ there for many years to come.

Jamaica,  Dubai....do I really  want to go there that bad?  Not so  much.

So I am curious,  how do  you travel.  What do you want? What do you look for?

Leave us your comments!


Derrick Sorles
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  • 7/27/2010 11:23 AM Kevin S - Brooklyn wrote:
    I agree with you Derrick. When I travel, I look for the rainbow flags - and support those businesses. And yes, I like to do "straight" touristy stuff like visit museums and castles, but I also check out the area's gay nightlife. I drink in gay bars, look for the gay enetertainment and look to meet new gay people in my travels.
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  • 7/27/2010 10:00 PM Marcus wrote:
    After I decide where I want to go on a trip, the first thing I do is start researching the gay community there. Where are the clubs, the gay shops, the gay restaurants - I want to see other gays! I look for the rainbow flag and I know I am welcome there. Maybe because I was born and raised in a small town, now I enjoy getting out and exploring gay area around the world. And I would never spend my money, knowingly, in non gay friendly places.
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    1. 7/28/2010 12:06 PM michael snell wrote:
      I am sure there are many gay people, who travel, who could care less about gay scenes. Everyone has different tastes, needs and wants.
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  • 7/31/2010 5:40 PM Mind Traffic wrote:
    Matt Long is a little short on knowledge of relatively recent history.

    Just fifty short years ago, in much of the U.S., black people were openly discriminated against when they sought to share lodging and dining with white people. As gay entrepreneurs do today, enterprising black people developed accommodations catering to "their own kind."

    Not that many years ago interracial heterosexual couples were publicly upbraided for having the temerity to marry the person they loved.

    Attitudes are changing, but Mr. Long's admonishment that gay people should just immerse themselves in mainstream travel is rather naive.
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    1. 8/1/2010 8:31 AM michael snell wrote:
      THANK YOU  so much for that comment and observation!

      And luckily, thanks to phone apps that are available, we can go anywhere,  any city, any country, turn on our phones and find where the gays are!


      Derrick  Sorles

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  • 8/3/2010 11:01 AM Aditi L wrote:
    I COMPLETELY agree with you!

    First, we're not traveling in a gay-friendly world yet. In fact, I'd say it's more difficult to find a gay-friendly country than a gay-hostile country. We need to know our options and support gay friendly places.

    Second, tours ARE geared towards Christians. Church groups travel to Christian-destinations, like Jerusalem, ALL the time.

    Third, I'm Indian, and I've traveled with several Indian tour agencies before. There's nothing weird or unusual about that- Indians eat late and want chai, and the tour adapts to that.

    Finally, and most importantly, the LGBT traveller's needs are different. In our own cities, we visit LGBT bars and clubs, and we want to do that when we travel too! It's not furthering a stereotype- we're a sexual minority group, bars and clubs is where that gets played out.

    Aditi L (gaytravel.com/blog)
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  • 12/30/2010 7:23 AM TimmyFK wrote:
    I'm an American gay guy currently based in the UK, who is keen to explore destinations such as Egypt and experience the culture, sights and beauty of what may be considered less "gay friendly" destinations. I want to do this with the security and comfort of being part of a group of similar travelers.

    Why should my travel exploits be limited to Ft Lauderdale, Mykonos, Gran Canaria, The Keys etc?
    I've just booked an Egypt tour for May 2011 .... I can't wait to explore Petra and cruise down the Nile with similar, like-minded people, safe in the knowledge that I'm traveling with expertise about what is appropriate and also getting the full gay experience. We need more companies like this that allow us to explore, travel and at the same time enlighten.

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    1. 1/6/2011 10:50 AM Gay Travel with Michael Snell wrote:
      We had an advertiser who does lots of these retreats and vacations - called  Spirit Journeys. We also have a new advertiser coming on board this week! Who will specialize in organized gay LGBT getaway vacations.  Watch for their ad this week!
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